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1535

There's "NO STATUS QUO" for SD efforts to match, if endless economic expansion moves the goal posts ever faster too. #UN #HLP

13-Jun
2013

12:41
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1534

It only takes curiosity, to ask what really drives our cultures to ALL bet the bank on taking over the world??

12-Jun
2013

10:50
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1533

Life'd be less frustrating if our cultures didn't ALL base their prosperity on taking over ever more of the world. http://t.co/61js2oqN7z

12-Jun
2013

9:31
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1532

Still, human arrogance and ignorance of life pervades, reading our images as realities rather than precious hints.  http://t.co/LB9mW3sQ9c

12-Jun
2013

12:07
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1531

 

 

 

1530

To #decouple #growth, could the value we add double 5 times a century (x32), when till now it was 2 times a century (x4)?? http://t.co/WBBK5aTtri

10-Jun
2013

6:26
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1529

If our ever #growing #solutions keep making things ever more unmanageable, it all gets more and more frustrating. http://t.co/iBxBwdcLZc

10-Jun
2013

6:14
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1528

People overlook great #INEQUITY comes from using power to take power, and will ONLY change by changing that game, with ONLY one fair way.

10-Jun
2013

11:10
AM

1527

Everyting horrid, as well as beautiful, needs a burst of energy and self-organization to get started!  ... beautiful.  :-)

10-Jun
2013

10:59
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1526

@Revkin @CarlPope If trees should make autocrats quiver, why do human minds seem to make nature quiver, our theories twisting her in knots.

8-Jun
2013

1:03
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1525

great vision - Silke Helfrich: "Economics and the Commons?! Towards a Commons Creating ...http://t.co/HURia7IY4r via @youtube

1-Jun
2013

3:24
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1524

Silke has a wonderful grasp of the whole diversity of ways people are exploring the commons. (@YouTube http://t.co/f8HpqLhl7S )

1-Jun
2013

3:24
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1523

I liked a @YouTube video http://t.co/f8HpqLhl7S Silke Helfrich: "Economics and the Commons?! Towards a Commons Creating Peer

1-Jun
2013

3:17
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1522

@2015on #Post2015HLP - STILL... the deep flaw is talking about where to go without thinking how to get there, 'how' ALWAYS changes the goal.

31-May
2013

4:00
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1521

@2015on #Post2015HLP "having the money" ISN'T THE KEY but what you take it from.. as MORE MONEY is more spending and unsustainable impacts.

31-May
2013

3:56
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1520

@2015on #Post2015HLP High praises were given to engagement with Civil Society, but the discussion quite left out how to proceed.

31-May
2013

3:52
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1519

@2015on #Post2015HLP The report curiously omits the VAST cultural changes for "slow" adapting communities to compete with "fast" ones.

31-May
2013

3:50
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1518

@2015on #Post2015HLP "Building lasting prosperity" is a self-contradiction, if "prosperity" means growth of money and consumption.

31-May
2013

3:45
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1517

@2015on #Post2015HLP - If others used your money to consume other people's resources ever more, when would it cause trouble?https://t.co/QbCkhuAOvq

31-May
2013

3:38
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1516

@2015on #Post2015HLP - Where it breaks down is in "agreeing on how where to end..." having no idea how to get there. http://t.co/GmW9IwBesr

31-May
2013

3:32
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1515

@2015on #Post2015HLP - the real answer to MONEY.. at the limits the use of profit is owed to caring for the earth, not inflating power.

31-May
2013

3:28
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1514

@2015on #Post2015HLP Sadly, the report is still "Old Economics", a vision of how cooperation will erase the limits of the earth...

31-May
2013

2:51
PM

1513

@2015on #Post2015HLP An "agenda that is truly transformational" can't skip the steering problem of money, which has no "agenda" but MORE.

31-May
2013

2:44
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1512

@2015on #Post2015HLP Wonderful to feel "everybody in the same boat", but leaving out how our money can respond to sharing the earth.

31-May
2013

2:41
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1511

#2015on #post2015HLP  - We're ignoring the link between  money and natural limits.  If what people spend on has natural limits, then so does money!!

31-May
2013

2:34
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1510

@2015on  - If people agree, but misunderstand how growth results in more conflict at limits to the earth, our cooperating is a failure.

31-May
2013

2:27
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1509

#post2015HLP - If people agree, but misunderstand how growth results in more conflict at limits to the earth, our cooperating is a failure.

31-May
2013

2:24
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1508

Outreach Event on Post
2015 Development Agenda... http://t.co/di3zZMJzEb  - How do we know what organization is profitable in the long run??

31-May
2013

2:12
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1507

 

 

 

1506

I liked a @YouTube video from @shoudaknown http://t.co/4iMog5kZPf Caregiving Purposes - a short scientific message for the UN on

22-May
2013

7:34
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1505

The science of observing how systems behave on their own, can be eye opening http://t.co/4iMog5kZPf

22-May
2013

7:34
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1504

 

 

 

1503

I wonder, is "realization" a substitute for nature any time we like, or only when our minds are playing catch-up with nature??

19-May
2013

11:52
AM

1502

Oh "solar shmolar"... you really can't use a new source of supply to resolve a problem of ever growing demand, you know.

15-May
2013

11:25
AM

1501

The internet is FREE!! [.. & devil's bargain] They just GIVE it all away [.. & steal you blind behind your back]. I LOOVE "free", too much.

9-May
2013

1:03
PM

1500

Who else saw "sustainable development" is a contradiction, and earth in the balance, asked really why we equate them? http://t.co/vmSxJnPFV7

7-May
2013

1:40
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1499

Looking for what "Big Data" tells us?? Find where the flows begin, how NATURE integrates her 4D world without us.  http://t.co/LV19ippbXc

7-May
2013

12:08
PM

1498

I like being in an empty church to feel its witness of our troubled lives.  It's being with people there sending troubled messages that bother me.

26-Apr
2013

8:40
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1497

#innovateyourfuture What if deep poverty is caused by interruption of estab. cultures by incompatible innovation in & around them?

24-Apr
2013

2:57
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1496

@BrianLehrer #morningmediadiet (..ing) I sharply cut back on media trying to use media swarming for $, like WNYC's repeated efforts to do so

23-Apr
2013

3:22
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1495

@WorldwatchInst  always combines the best sensible science and social thinking State of the World webcast Tuesday, http://t.co/bD7ImOBAlO

15-Apr
2013

11:40
AM

1494

So... we seem not to notice we design every business plan as a bomb going off, of exploding wealth..., and duhhh... bombs aren't stable!

4-Apr
2013

5:23
PM

1493

Is it profitable for investors.. to play on the ignorance of each other, the public and government, on what's profitable for the earth???

3-Apr
2013

3:25
PM

1492

Hey, nothing wrong with our ever growing demands for services from the earth... well, except our parallel growing ignorance of making them.

28-Mar
2013

10:26
PM

1491

#Post2015 Decoupling - That's like being so efficient taking resources out of the ground the actual effect is to put them back in!

27-Mar
2013

1:45
PM

1490

#post2015 Decoupling?  Just like taking the pipe out of the oil well and it keeps producing oil.. and burning it for energy and it makes no CO2!

27-Mar
2013

12:43
PM

1489

Difficulty counting? If a person looking at their hand counts their fingers, and says "one", you REALLY have to wonder how they did that!

22-Mar
2013

2:16
AM

1488

The UN wants to hear from YOU! on priorities for creating a better world. http://t.co/JiUjcLmkKt  via @MyWorld2015

18-Mar
2013

8:03
PM

1487

#Entrepreneurs need to know how the leading edges of change lurch forward. Still fresh, natural systems physics http://t.co/iR7y8KV6Xr

12-Mar
2013

12:21
PM

1486

@cjoh Or worse than polishing their slides, spending all their time making sure what their selling would work!!  That's marketing poison!

11-Mar
2013

4:23
PM

1485

But WHY would you also be concerned if a strategy would work, done we just need it to sell??

11-Mar
2013

4:21
PM

1484

"HEY! ...We're headed right for a tree!" 

11-Mar
2013

4:17
PM

1483

Reply: Oh yes I do see.  That's fascinating, but how can we keep speeding up??

11-Mar
2013

4:17
PM

1482

"Well regulated militia" seems... in common language to equal "National guard", as discussions starting in 1810,  http://t.co/cLoF0C0Suu

11-Mar
2013

12:41
PM

1481

The whole *NEVER* does what its average parts do, like puree, but what ALL the parts add up to, in which small differences are critical!

6-Mar
2013

12:46
PM

1480

Bad policy comes from social 'values', like "sustainability" used *SO SELECTIVELY* the effect is opposite of what our values would require.

27-Feb
2013

1:51
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1479

It's *emerging organization* in nature that causes shifts in "pressures and flows", for **indicators** of system change, *NOT* the reverse.

26-Feb
2013

3:06
PM

1478

A weird reality of SD is... we mostly don't count the impacts caused by paying others to do impacts for us! http://t.co/bfTCUMhpOa

23-Feb
2013

2:52
PM

1477

Our ever growing competition over shrinking resources is no plan for the future. One destroys us internally and the other externally!!

23-Feb
2013

1:58
PM

1476

It doesn't help to dream of our "getting back to normal" when "normal" is exactly what got us in all our trouble. http://t.co/2nUIOnvvTa

20-Feb
2013

11:56
PM

1475

RT @AmanSinghCSR: "90% of investors,whether theyre #ESG or #SRI are in the speculation game, not the #investment game" - John Fullerton, ...

19-Feb
2013

11:47
PM

1474

@SustainBrands @CSR_Leaders http://t.co/7XDgu9Nz  Displays the WORST of partial reporting [of 10% that shows, ignoring 90% easy to hide]!

18-Feb
2013

1:34
PM

1473

@SustainBrands It's unfortunate but this kind of partial reporting is hopelessly deceptive, see comment: http://t.co/7XDgu9Nz

18-Feb
2013

12:30
PM

1472

To avoid becoming jaded, as life get's boring or a trap, you just need to realize there's always another side, and go find it.

17-Feb
2013

1:56
PM

1471

Thinking of the world in theory takes trying to define or control what can't be explained that way, everything self defined and controlled.

17-Feb
2013

1:52
PM

1470

#StateOfUnion Too bad Barack is so uninformed on how growth works, burning up the earth ever faster to earn and pay on ever growing debts.

10-Feb
2013

2:12
PM

1469

One interesting thing I found is that 'growth', as a natural process, ALWAYS violates its own purposes.  ...but people don't notice it matters!

2-Feb
2013

12:04
PM

1468

Most people look for a world that doesn't violate their purposes. I was looking for how to live and not become jaded. http://t.co/J0MaWia1

2-Feb
2013

12:03
PM

1467

So.. if we knew our energy use we can see is 1/10th of what we buy but don't see, would anyone start counting them??  http://t.co/lTXJMATn

30-Jan
2013

8:27
PM

1466

Can #capitalism avoid its ever growing crises by getting people drunk on their illusions again?  It's often done so, to the end, it seems.

26-Jan
2013

3:15
PM

1465

Civilizations die when people keep following obviously wrong plans, persistently, decade after decade, as if reality was in their heads.

21-Jan
2013

7:41
PM

1464

@BarackObama Need big change in #violent #gun #culture? Study how violent gun cultures dramatically changed before. http://t.co/TOwijun0

20-Jan
2013

12:28
PM

1463

Need dramatic change in #violent #gun #culture?  Study dramatic cultural changes that occurred before. http://t.co/TOwijun0

20-Jan
2013

12:05
PM

1462

"There's a much better way to understand "food addictions", and business use of unhealthy ingredients”¦" “”  http://t.co/0plQGyjd

17-Jan
2013

12:37
PM

1461

 

 

 

1460

A free market alternate to "capitalism", not for piling up money but for using it well, "collaboration" (co-labor-ation) http://t.co/j37cASSG

14-Jan
2013

12:07
PM

1459

Steadily improving human welfare on earth is a fact, dependent on ever faster depletion of our resources too.   Hmmm... what next?

14-Jan
2013

12:03
PM

1458

What doesn't get heard, is how our business model needs ever more of everyone else's resources to work. http://t.co/MJW7AUaE

13-Jan
2013

12:18
PM

1457

Democracy was not created for a world where everyone chooses their own reality.  That seems to turn it into Obsenity.

3-Jan
2013

8:25
PM

1456

@Revkin @CJR - Is it really the JOB of journalists to select what reality to present to attract their audience, or is that just natural??

3-Jan
2013

7:40
PM

1455

@Revkin @CJR ... followed by... how ALL media ignore the pitfalls of selective science, airing only stories affirming their audience!

3-Jan
2013

7:37
PM

1454

@yvesbehar @Bill_Gross @darrenrovell @twitPic - OK, but peace comes from learning to sense and dance with the unfamiliar, not wishing

1-Jan
2013

7:18
PM

1453

So, why DO people treat "reality" as a social agreement??  Is it because people have found little else to go by?

1-Jan
2013

7:12
PM

1452

@Futura - What's so troubling about the hidden scale of outsourced energy use is it makes sustainability unsustainable. http://t.co/lTXJMATn

31-Dec
2012

11:11
PM

1451

@futerra Nice to think of as a party. It'll be a slow starter as reluctant as people are to facing troubling facts... http://t.co/lTXJMATn

31-Dec
2012

11:07
PM

1450

Democracy really works!  It let the world agree on a smooth running economic system, for consuming the earth ever faster!  Amazing success!!

28-Dec
2012

12:25
PM

1449

#Russia, Isn't banning the adoption of orphans a human rights offense?  If Putin adopted it he'd lose his private US visa right then, no?

28-Dec
2012

12:52
AM

1448

Democratic decisions tend to fail whenever people have SHALLOW AWARENESS, acting as if the world was the picture and theory in their heads.

27-Dec
2012

2:48
PM

1447

Ecologies develop collaborative design if their parts steer clear of remote threats, and experiment with what's profitable, DEEP AWARENESS.

27-Dec
2012

2:45
PM

1446

Our "leadership of the free world" is sadly based on our success in being unaware of raping the earth for quick profits!  Where to now boss?

27-Dec
2012

2:40
PM

1445

"If we want to stem violence, we need to begin stemming despair" Anatomy of a Murder-Suicide http://t.co/M3arwLMa  - Be the one who listens!

24-Dec
2012

12:12
PM

1444

Lethal weapons are no game.  Take life seriously.

24-Dec
2012

3:37
AM

1443

Pipeline censors unable to detect leaks...! NY Times http://t.co/j9Bd75b1

23-Dec
2012

12:39
PM

1442

#Guns are NEVER EVER FOR PLAY.

23-Dec
2012

12:28
PM

1441

#Guns are NEVER EVER FOR PLAY.  Ban the ownership of working guns for anyone owning them just for play, as a #DSM-V Sociopathic Disorder.

23-Dec
2012

12:26
PM

1440

@WNYC I don't know what else you call it but a rampant societal obsession with murder weapons.  What't that really for???

22-Dec
2012

1:07
AM

1439

@WNYC Are gun restrictions enough?   Or do we need a less violence prone society? http://t.co/JxFxypEP

20-Dec
2012

12:27
AM

1438

The #NRA has many idealists as well as ideologues, but seems energized by a gun culture, for immature men with penis problems...!

19-Dec
2012

2:16
PM

1437

Our celebration of wild gun-fighting mayhem for fun, turns it into normal public speech.  Then the wrong people see it as their way to talk.

18-Dec
2012

1:54
AM

1436

It's our popular cultures that celebrate military slaughter, as entertainment, that lets unbalanced people think it's legitimate expression.

18-Dec
2012

1:24
AM

1435

Our movies, gaming and popular cultures celebrate mayhem, and we mourn those then killed when its done for real.  Too tragic to be contrived

18-Dec
2012

1:10
AM

1434

@Ethical_Corp - Funny thing with saving special places is then sacrificing all the ordinary ones, to our great tornadoes of money.

17-Dec
2012

11:16
PM

1433

Is what we're doing good enough for the earth?

17-Dec
2012

11:11
PM

1432

For ever growing risks, any one level might eventually be adapted to.  It's the continual growing risks we face that are the real threat.

17-Dec
2012

6:08
PM

1431

The deathly choices of the "invisible hand" driving our world are hardly invisible,... in the common rule of money to be ever more selfish.

17-Dec
2012

2:25
PM

1430

Growth is invariably a swelling conquest, of resources others were already using, a death tax on everything we don't know to protect.

17-Dec
2012

1:16
PM

1429

The MAIN RESOURCES of continual "economic growth" also mine the resilience of human society and our use of the earth exponentially.

17-Dec
2012

1:09
PM

1428

"We don't know what #RISKS we over-estimate or we under-estimate", EXCEPT FOR THOSE OF PUSHING THE LIMITS OF OUR OWN RESILIENCE a break.

17-Dec
2012

12:52
PM

1427

Culture is the mark of a collective human experience, that can only exist if the parts also show marked empathy for the whole, unlike us.

17-Dec
2012

12:40
PM

1426

It shows *no empathy for mankind as a whole* to keep a consensus plan as we have *to prosper forever* growing like a cancer on the earth, .

17-Dec
2012

12:28
PM

1425

The one thing humans lack, keeping us from being honest about the morality of our lives, is empathy for the whole commons we're part of.

17-Dec
2012

6:52
AM

1424

The ecological cause of both more frequent mass murders and severe weather are the same, a society pushing everything to the point it breaks

17-Dec
2012

6:50
AM

1423

@HeleneFinidori @maxlath #GrowCommons would also be cells learning to value "feeding their body", a safe harbor being the service returned.

16-Dec
2012

11:46
PM

1422

@thinkprogress https://t.co/I4Lm7pKq

16-Dec
2012

10:50
PM

1421

It''s OUR SOCIETY that pushes us to ever rising scales of achievement, forcing us to our limits, and so DENYING EVERYONE A SAFE HARBOR.

16-Dec
2012

10:49
PM

1420

It's kind of tragic that humans so often have to feel complete ignorance is certain knowledge.

9-Dec
2012

1:37
AM

1419

Using creativity to find ever growing energy supplies, can only result in a more and more  rapid natural end of supplies.

1-Dec
2012

4:53
PM

1418

Nice presentation of where energy markets are now going on energy technology, with a serious "fly in the ointment". http://t.co/yiYdP43a

1-Dec
2012

3:59
PM

1417

A cancer is a growth business that overstays its welcome, a "big success" act becoming a grand failure of purposes.

1-Dec
2012

3:16
PM

1416

We all mourn the loss of our trusted heritages, but also need to ask, Are we a worthy harvest of their seed?  What have we become??

1-Dec
2012

2:26
PM

1415

"Conservative" today became people with "outlandish complaints", replacing science and the meanings for words with political fictions.

1-Dec
2012

2:13
PM

1414

My parents and gran's were "very" conservative, hard working and respectful to all, people you could trust without question, old stock.

1-Dec
2012

2:06
PM

1413

Life is Learning... physics and economics are just dumb formulas, (&mostly wrong about life!).

24-Nov
2012

4:42
PM

1412

Now the computers make the products they can't use, and consumers borrow the money they can't repay, both programmed to maximize the profit.

23-Nov
2012

5:06
PM

1411

The thing about self-organizing systems is they develop as cells of accumulating organization: research http://t.co/DpjwBU9i  @ComplexityInst

23-Nov
2012

1:06
PM

1410

Conceptual realities are magical, as mental constructs for invented subjects, that don't use space or energy or change over time.

21-Nov
2012

9:47
PM

1409

From Rebeca's vivid "four horsemen" to the transformation we seek, my comment #63 http://t.co/xaQSEWAu

21-Nov
2012

4:02
PM

1408

Rebeca Solnit's cool viewpoint on the source of our world "plague of crises" - as if understanding the natural science! http://t.co/jLDleAOM

21-Nov
2012

3:45
PM

1407

Once you control the whole earth, there's much less profit in having a system for conquering things, than in having one for caring for them.

20-Nov
2012

4:51
AM

1406

@Koann ..then we need to check to see how much information our information is giving us, and how to cover the gaps. http://t.co/lTXJMATn

14-Nov
2012

1:11
PM

1405

#SBLondon #Livestream - current state of corporate sustainability,Nov 27th-28th - inching toward the line of insight http://t.co/fkRlLlNM

14-Nov
2012

1:08
PM

1404

Investors benefit from a growing economy with people working less, so till they spend it(!!) =>  we get endless stagnation/decline.

11-Nov
2012

11:56
AM

1403

People who repeatedly claim victory after losing elections dangerously delude themselves, no?, after failing to deceive the public?

8-Nov
2012

3:34
AM

1402

@theshiftnetwork The transformation of the whole is a turning from multiplying to integrating, to remain profitable. http://t.co/M4jN8Mdy

7-Nov
2012

9:51
PM

1401

When you're in such real trouble, why keep relying on fantasy theory??  Using ever more stuff up really doesn't create plenty.

2-Nov
2012

11:54
AM

1400

Having more "superstorms" + ocean rise + resource exhaustion, (all very predictable) = an inability to recover from normal hazards.

31-Oct
2012

10:17
AM

1399

Well, Superstorm Sandy proves one thing, we don't need political nuts running the country!

31-Oct
2012

4:32
AM

1398

If you can't deliver, promise more and more and more!   People love it!

26-Oct
2012

3:06
AM

1397

If the guy is OK with handling his strings, does it mean it OK to elect another puppet? The last one got elected and caused a disaster.

23-Oct
2012

2:52
AM

1396

For special interests it's easier to manipulate state governments, so natural for businesses to fund states' rights.

19-Oct
2012

6:21
PM

1395

Vote for their hidden agendas promises made. It's what both candidates believe is worth lying to everyone about to get elected...

18-Oct
2012

6:04
PM

1394

Honestly honey, BIG wishful thinking doesn't  do any more than LITTLE wishful thinking... so you really don't need get hoards to do it.

18-Oct
2012

6:01
PM

1393

Economic growth... is like children playing hop-scotch, and  needing ever bigger squares to land on.

18-Oct
2012

11:03
AM

1392

We'd all have guessed, but yes, even more empty and boring than the last.

17-Oct
2012

2:23
AM

1391

Oh gosh, the economy is intruding ever more rapidly on everything we care about. Quick, let's protect one or two favorite things!

14-Oct
2012

1:24
AM

1390

Entertainment is our government's most important product, and don't you forget it!   It pays for *everything*.

12-Oct
2012

2:35
AM

1389

How do environmentalists resolve the inner conflict of flying long distance? New Physics.. Sustainability: How do envi”¦ http://t.co/FHgFLt1d

10-Oct
2012

2:11
AM

1388

BURN Radio Special: The Power of One http://t.co/q4g3qzyO

8-Oct
2012

1:00
AM

1387

Is "business" ever "pro-people", or just deeply conflicted? ..owned by profiting from our addictions till the earth quits.

7-Oct
2012

11:46
AM

1386

The chill of getting the truth generation defunded came naturally,... with giving the profits to big money.

7-Oct
2012

11:39
AM

1385

RT @NatureMagazine: Really disappointed to see a quality news outlet like @TheOnion break the embargo on our forthcoming beauty study: h ...

5-Oct
2012

4:29
PM

1384

Just curious, when referring to yourself is it as your whole body and presence at the moment, or as a mind in charge of making choices?

4-Oct
2012

1:38
PM

1383

What say?  Shall we "kick the can down the road" over the cliff, profiting from depleting the earth ever faster all the way?

4-Oct
2012

1:03
AM

1382

It might mean clinging to the scars of the past only adds to your being misled, like returning to mistaken rules not learning from them.

1-Oct
2012

1:14
PM

1381

Is why so many generations of truth tellers suddenly started producing so many liars just thinking our information was reality?

1-Oct
2012

12:42
PM

1380

Policy is no quick fix, but a very slow cure.  The learning of which ones make a better world and way to live takes time.

1-Oct
2012

12:38
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1379

How to solve for the main problem of systems science seems to be to just say “systems in nature”¯ are not conceptual..."

27-Sep
2012

1:56
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1378

Two plainly showing "lost" truths. Our impacts on the earth always did and will grow parallel to GDP and $1 = 1 share. http://t.co/7rltOb0O

26-Sep
2012

1:28
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1377

Are we trusting in God to save the earth from our ignorance and greed, when evidently the test is if we will ourselves?

26-Sep
2012

1:18
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1376

It does matter what you use your wealth for, like for finding how stop using it for exhausting the earth, the path we're on.

22-Sep
2012

7:09
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1375

It's been over 50 years.. since making more money privately made more wealth for all.  The tables turn naturally as we push the limits!

22-Sep
2012

7:02
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1374

In an environment that is less and less responsive, as in a woman's affections, investing in the opposite is often fatal.

22-Sep
2012

4:27
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1373

The word of God addresses such limited subjects, no word how nature works or us in it, as of "old sciences" not the knowing maker of all.

22-Sep
2012

3:19
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1372

For inequity in society, you ask if those investing in our future are making a good one and what's connecting the dots. http://t.co/myQHTqNR

22-Sep
2012

2:04
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1371

It's data showing nature connecting the dots, letting you trace the way those connections emerged. Equations to fit are just 'statistics'.

22-Sep
2012

1:43
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1370

Isn't there a problem having an economic system designed to explode forever, and having to devote more and more effort trying to keep it from blowing up?

21-Sep
2012

5:15
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1369

If you find a really insulting video in the trash, why send it to ALL your friends??? Isn't that a bit stupid?

21-Sep
2012

12:33
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1368

Reason is a world of information controlling information, (nature works another way, by organization building on organization) misleading.

21-Sep
2012

10:27
AM

1367

'Having a 'Knowosphere,' won't correct the misinformation on the 'Natureosphere' -NYTimes.com  via @nytimes http://t.co/xPqYcdbi

20-Sep
2012

1:03
PM

1366

The message of our medium is we really think nature works by categories and opinions, not her self-organizing explosions of events...

19-Sep
2012

11:37
AM

1365

#Mitt's #brain - the working parts of nature seem so much like categories of accusations,... but aren't

19-Sep
2012

10:47
AM

1364

When the world has gone mad, leaders leave, on a better path to follow - The Goldruler Challenge MIX http://t.co/yDFWXrEA

17-Sep
2012

1:36
PM

1363

CULTIVATING 21st CENTURY CAPABILITIES MIX http://t.co/YGwiIhqF    w/ Jessie H on natural systems show how ours should work.

17-Sep
2012

12:57
PM

1362

PURSUING RADICAL FAIRNESS MIX http://t.co/iSuuQczH  via @sharethis  w/ Jessie H comment on critical need for new financial commons.

17-Sep
2012

12:54
PM

1361

SYNDICATING THE WORK OF LEADERSHIP MIX http://t.co/E8WPIWGu  via @sharethis   w/ Jessie H comment on need for  SEA as measurement tool.

17-Sep
2012

12:52
PM

1360

How would we end the market game of "multiplying mutual pick-pocket"?  It's not "liquidity" but "robbery", good only for the pick pockets!

16-Sep
2012

2:39
PM

1359

What to do with "sovereign" powers, that are clearly "deluded", not "superior" in authority any way but in their own claim.

16-Sep
2012

2:11
PM

1358

Trusting "the data", both economists and environmentalists have *long* been *dealing with far less than half a deck* http://t.co/gGjM7KEN

16-Sep
2012

12:35
PM

1357

In taking the spoils for men raping the earth, as a "gift", it lets both off the hook to say "thanks, but we have to do right by these.."

16-Sep
2012

12:04
PM

1356

Then there's "life", the wheels get all the credit and the axles hold everything together..

16-Sep
2012

12:00
PM

1355

What's cool about baseball, is win or lose, all the extraordinary individual performances moments of suspense.

16-Sep
2012

11:59
AM

1354

I feel like I'm completely surrounded by millions of brilliant Ptolemaic scholars, telling me ALL about their epicycles...

15-Sep
2012

11:27
PM

1353

Congressman @Ryan, you can be "right" all the time and still dead wrong about "attack dogs" ever learning how to run things.

15-Sep
2012

12:11
PM

1352

@HIPinvestor @SustainBrands another oddity for #NewMetrics, human capital sharply declining in real value since 1970..http://t.co/yjubfZNP

15-Sep
2012

11:39
AM

1351

@HIPinvestor @SustainBrands Interesting that over a day, solar PV cheaper & more efficient than solar thermal  http://t.co/0bIwJRGy

15-Sep
2012

11:33
AM

1350

@Revkin @portereduardo If no one studies how the natural systems forming around us work, they sure won't for us.  http://t.co/NexYcz4C

15-Sep
2012

11:14
AM

1349

So.. Idle money is owed ever growing returns for idle purposes... cuz??  it's a divine right of people who "play the game?" or something?

15-Sep
2012

11:07
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1348

News of "the commons" - getting the whole to work is emerging as a new paradigm of sustainability http://www.synapse9.com/signals/2012/06/07/the-news-of-the-commons/  Time to VOTE...

7Jun, m2012

1347

http://lnkd.in/33Feu9  Helene, I think how your said it is great, if you just compact it a bit, and change enables to enable "Enable...

7Jun, 2012

1346

http://lnkd.in/YJNXm7  Helene - Yes of course, What's most important would be a priority shortlist of coordinated actions. You might...

7 Jun, 2012

1345

http://lnkd.in/_J2b7F  T.A. - Yes, the co-evolution of modern culture and technology has been noticed by lots of people. Technology is...

7 Jun, 2012

1344

http://lnkd.in/hfp25d  Helene - I'm delighted you liked how I've been adding "the commons" to my way of describing how individuals...

6 Jun, 2012

1343

http://lnkd.in/Jdv2Sh  T.A. - What I think complicates the meaning we get from food chain cascades is that when Odum or Abel say "that...

6 Jun, 2012

1342

http://lnkd.in/ZNMwah  New article (on metrics) - 1st 3 pp's below...

5 Jun, 2012

1341

http://lnkd.in/T4yGbA  New article (on metrics) - 1st 3 pp's below...

5 Jun, 2012

1340

http://lnkd.in/u_ZDsE  Chandrashekar - That's a generous offer. It would be wonderful to have an observer's condensation of things. I'd...

5 Jun, 2012

1339

http://lnkd.in/CT4UCF  Peter - I for one largely agree with your view of the problem, that sustainability as a word and way to sell...

5 Jun, 2012

1338

http://lnkd.in/dv9hW9  Thor -As I presented it, my idea that people will inevitably come to see the need to stop doing business with...

5 Jun, 2012

1337

http://lnkd.in/hC4g7j  Thor -As I presented it, my intent of saying people will inevitably come to see the need to stop doing business...

5 Jun, 2012

1336

We got the votes: Needed: Paradigm Shift now on he agenda...http://shar.es/qD8pl  See my comment at the bottom!

5 Jun, 2012

1335

http://lnkd.in/Wa72px  Nicolas - There's an interesting dichotomy between thinking of "the commons" as a place and as a way of working...

4 Jun, 2012

1334

http://lnkd.in/wRCZjt  David - the particular strategy of "conflict resolution" I'm pointing to with my http://RioDialogues.org proposal is...

4 Jun, 2012

1333

http://lnkd.in/WKdyJK  David - the particular strategy of "conflict resolution" I'm pointing to with my http://RioDialogues.org proposal is...

4 Jun, 2012

1332

http://lnkd.in/8rN_Mp  Bob, I guess I see a difference between engineers and scientists, that goes both ways. Scientists are mostly...

3 Jun, 2012

1331

http://lnkd.in/eZQd6b  David - Sure, ideology is a kind of "poison" for communication, as it draws a sharp line between allowed and...

3 Jun, 2012

1330

http://lnkd.in/yvDyQc  David - I think there are probably many ways to define 'the commons' as a word, and other ways to leave it...

3 Jun, 2012

1329

http://lnkd.in/Mgmziv  Helene - I think the easier way to define "the commons" is as the world we live in that people don't define, i.e....

3 Jun, 2012

1328

http://lnkd.in/qWReW3  Thorbjoern - The power issues do indeed persist, as you say "any form of self-governance (in which several parties...

3 Jun, 2012

1327

http://lnkd.in/PUXR8P  Helene - I think the easier way to define "the commons" is as the world we live in that people don't define, i.e....

2 Jun, 2012

1326

http://lnkd.in/ctArJR  Bob - Like most of the skeptics about the integrity of science you do seem to think science is like an argument,...

2 Jun, 2012

1325

#Biomimicry link & support Biomimicry for Self-regulating Economy: A new economic paradigm, finally!https://www.riodialogues.org/node/245656

 

2 Jun, 2012

1324

#RioDialogues: link & support A new economic paradigm: The next big challenge, Biomimicry for Self-regulating Economy:https://www.riodialogues.org/node/245656

2 Jun, 2012

1323

@HeleneFinidori ;-)) &link "A new economic paradigm: The next big challenge", biomimicry for a self-regulating commons http://www.stakeholderforum.org/sf/outreach/index.php/inf3day1home/102-inf3day3

2 Jun, 2012

1322

@EarthSummit2012 link "A new economic paradigm: The next big challenge", biomimicry for a self-regulating commons:http://www.stakeholderforum.org/sf/outreach/index.php/inf3day1home/102-inf3day3

2 Jun, 2012

1321

#RioDialogues: link "A new economic paradigm: The next big challenge", biomimicry for a self-regulating commons:http://www.stakeholderforum.org/sf/outreach/index.php/inf3day1home/102-inf3day3

2 Jun, 2012

1320

@dkorten link "A new economic paradigm: The next big challenge", biomimicry for a self-regulating financial commons:http://www.stakeholderforum.org/sf/outreach/index.php/inf3day1home/102-inf3day3

2 Jun, 2012

1319

For Rio Dialogues vote on directions for Sustainable Development, like away from competing interests to "the commons" https://www.riodialogues.org/node/240649#comment-29704

1 Jun, 2012

1318

http://lnkd.in/6HZ6KM Helene - great to see the progress and spread of interest in how to make the commons the centerpiece of...

1 Jun, 2012

1317

@Earthsummit2012 A great omission from most lists of our great omissions... is ending the use of profits for ever multiplying investment.

1 Jun, 2012

1316

http://lnkd.in/eBe96D Bob  - The numbers I've seen for the residence time of CO2 in the atmosphere are on the order of 200-300 years, with...

1 Jun, 2012

1315

http://lnkd.in/g5DYjg  Lewis - Isn't redefining the terms of metaphor and expecting it to still be valid is a bit crazy? Better to start...

1 Jun, 2012

1314

http://lnkd.in/iS9rp7   Lewis, That seems accurate as an example of fluctuating weather, but changing climate is an increasing temperature...

31 May, 2012

1313

http://lnkd.in/pzWkip  Lewis - Why couldn't we easily monitor the input and output? Just simple satellite measurements seem to do it....

31 May, 2012

1312

http://lnkd.in/UhFiAK  Lewis & Bob, Maybe answering Bob's question will address both, asking me: "Does your starting point for global...

30 May, 2012

1311

http://lnkd.in/kE9 _2m Lewis - Sorry, I didn't speak that way to be socially confrontational, but intellectually. Your last sentence is...

30 May, 2012

1310

http://lnkd.in/4Pvr9n  lewis, Except for your inability to separate fact from fiction I guess, you're actually quite wrong about climate...

29 May, 2012

1309

http://lnkd.in/NQzbzb  Lovis - As conceptual argument your approach sounds ideal, but conceptual models are always ideal. The reality...

28 May, 2012

1308

http://lnkd.in/vcm5wf  Well, lots of people did. Even JM Keynes predicted the growth system he designed would meet this kind of failure...

28 May, 2012

1307

http://lnkd.in/jgCWZ9  There's a strange possibility that might give EU leaders the option to save the Euro now that we see it is clearly...

27 May, 2012

1306

http://lnkd.in/pNW3Jp  Mary - You're getting my general way of thinking exactly, to find a working model in nature of the systems...

25 May, 2012

1305

C-Sections May Lead to Childhood Obesity - The Takeaway:http://bit.ly/KGKHkg  - are the last days of pregnancy chemically important to life?

25 May, 2012

1304

http://lnkd.in/4qXgq8  Vladimir - You say "If you imply that it is the scientific method that you rely upon to differentiate what you call...

24 May, 2012

1303

http://lnkd.in/P2T8Tr  I'd like anyone to comment on my competition entry for how to transform the economy, or ask questions for...

24 May, 2012

1302

http://lnkd.in/3kq4bW  T.A. - You ask "So if we abandon the old ways of chasing 'more efficiency of extraction' and look for alternatives,...

24 May, 2012

1301

http://lnkd.in/6du7 As Regarding the growth crisis, my view is a bit on the line of Vladimir's suggestion: "Why defeat an evil empire -...

21 May, 2012

1300

http://lnkd.in/g5f_Fk  Vladimir - I guess my approach would be to carefully avoid reliance on deciding what reality is, as so state it as...

21 May, 2012

1299

http://lnkd.in/ctb5k3  Mathieu - We certainly need graphic images to help explain ST, from various views, as that quote from Drucker...

20 May, 2012

1298

http://lnkd.in/zqJFb5  Mary & T.A. & Ferenc - I think a lot of "mumbojumbo" is coming from the unstudied differences between the thinking...

20 May, 2012

1297

http://lnkd.in/Cxb-Mw  T.A. - You ask about my saying "Whole system study involves acknowledging that whole individual systems might...

19 May, 2012

1296

http://lnkd.in/UeScgv  David - Yes the intent behind any systematic way of thinking, and the blinders people bring to the inquiry as well,...

18 May, 2012

1295

http://lnkd.in/8Yg6Zx  David - Yes the intent behind any systematic way of thinking, and the blinders people bring to the inquiry as well,...

18 May, 2012

1294

http://lnkd.in/EraZXE  Vladimir - You say "Given that any efficiency assessment by a person hinges on the assessment of usefulness of all...

18 May, 2012

1293

http://lnkd.in/hCtr4a  It occurs to me that one of the things systems thinking may be best for is clearly defining problems that are quite...

17 May, 2012

1292

http://lnkd.in/gN8xZ4  T.A. - Yes, there is some confusion to sort out... largely caused by the way the agreements within social networks...

16 May, 2012

1291

http://lnkd.in/6xaSvR  T.A. - Yes, there is some confusion to sort out... largely caused by the way the agreements within social networks...

16 May, 2012

1290

Adopt natural system principles to keep economies profitable at their limits Management Innovation eXchange http://shar.es/2R12T

15 May, 2012

1289

@UNEP_FI You should like my proposal to transform capitalism, by investment funds becoming endowments for the earth.http://www.synapse9.com/signals/2012/05/10/natural-principles-to-stay-profitable-at-limits/

14 May, 2012

1288

http://lnkd.in/jA7y_3  Mary - Capra's approach aims at bringing the economy to a stable climax as my approach also does, as necessary for...

14 May, 2012

1287

http://lnkd.in/QQXSQB  David - No I'm not familiar with "ecological rationality" as a modeling concept. My usual method is to look at my...

13 May, 2012

1286

http://lnkd.in/KThUSc  Lewis - Well, if you make a static model with liquid parts, that answers how to get it to flow, but does that loose...

13 May, 2012

1285

http://lnkd.in/tSjgvY  I'm mystified why the biomimicry people seem as averse to "whole problem" kinds of systems thinking as the...

13 May, 2012

1284

http://lnkd.in/v-FAVZ  Gene - what about ST as a continual partnership with nature, though, where the observer uses their models, not...

13 May, 2012

1283

http://lnkd.in/aqM6pV  Gene - for my two cents, I'd like the general framework of discussion to include ST as including ways of getting...

13 May, 2012

1282

http://lnkd.in/aTVB7y  David - The simplest "in a nut shell" description of my proposal is : "We should manage the world economy like...

13 May, 2012

1281

http://lnkd.in/SV7YBi  William - I'm delighted you like my site! My approach is usually thought of as a little esoteric, I think. I...

13 May, 2012

1280

http://lnkd.in/KakYRx  Tim - Examples of natural systems that develop by an explosion of energy use and new organization include 1)...

13 May, 2012

1279

http://lnkd.in/5CeWkE  I honestly think the evidence is very clear that the high expectations of Rio, whether people reach an inspired...

12 May, 2012

1278

http://lnkd.in/_YP5kD  Lewis - I'm glad you liked my way of describing system boundaries as "skin", to be used as something you can feel...

12 May, 2012

1277

http://lnkd.in/vtd7fb  Lewis - You say "solving mathematical problems in physics is at the heart and history of all definitions of ST that...

12 May, 2012

1276

http://lnkd.in/2FHjkC  Lewis - I'd certainly agree that there are systems that behave according to chaotic coupling principles. I would...

12 May, 2012

1275

http://lnkd.in/REbN_q  Jack - You define a,b & c as: "Any system manifests in up to three ways. a) as concept in a human mind, also...

11 May, 2012

1274

http://lnkd.in/PvuG_z  Lewis - you say "I agree that hierarchical patterns are easier to use, and not the perfect way to go, but until we...

11 May, 2012

1273

http://lnkd.in/2jZPhv  Gene - That nice video you linked,...

11 May, 2012

1272

http://lnkd.in/JUEEUN  Barry... I think my way of solving it should work for you. Yes there is no way of determining "objective reality",...

11 May, 2012

1271

http://lnkd.in/T4V57A  Barry, Rob Couldn't we do it BOTH ways, and in discussion switch back and forth between what you call a "construct...

11 May, 2012

1270

http://lnkd.in/7GK8ZJ  Jack - You recommend OpEMCSS (CAS) software for modeling and animating context-sensitive systems....

11 May, 2012

1269

It makes sustainability unsustainable, to not see money as co-constrained by physical goods and services, much the same limits!

11 May, 2012

1268

I'm going to "Green Breakfast Club Sponsorship Levels"! Who's joining? http://www.amiando.com/vi/LOGWNJL  via @amiando

11 May, 2012

1267

"Green Breakfast Club" great resource for starting or advanced new green business ideas http://www.greenbreakfastclub.com/

11 May, 2012

1266

http://lnkd.in/2viEze  Lewis & all - I think we need a way of being clear about the difference between ST as the study of models and as...

10 May, 2012

1265

http://lnkd.in/p69Zm6  all - David's mention of his submission to the Long Term Capitalism Challenge offered by Harvard Business Review,...

10 May, 2012

1264

http://lnkd.in/XUSghn  Darius and Peter - You ask how to know what boundary identifies a system. There are different ways for doing it...

9 May, 2012

1263

http://lnkd.in/fmBVDK  Geoff - You seem to be a good person to ask given your range of studies. Have studied systems as individual units...

9 May, 2012

1262

http://lnkd.in/hbcMiZ  Lewis - Your suggestion that I imitate Mandelbrot in co-authoring papers with others more familiar with particular...

9 May, 2012

1261

http://lnkd.in/t9KgZn  You know, the thing I've always found funny about chaos theory, is the premise that a world full of changing...

9 May, 2012

1260

http://lnkd.in/C8vQz6  Jack - It's kind of curious that even the extension of Maslow is just for bringing others to work on themselves,...

7 May, 2012

1259

http://lnkd.in/3gvPkq  Barry - I hear your complaint about abstract models of systems not necessarily being useful for real problems. I...

7 May, 2012

1258

http://lnkd.in/wkwJxa  David Hawk - Where I picked up Gunnar Hedlund's thinking was by being part of a group of friends in SGSR in the mid...

7 May, 2012

1257

http://lnkd.in/Cn_eFv  Jack, I like what I see in the approaches of Schön, Novak & Wymore. Thanks. Wymore seems to be associated with...

6 May, 2012

1256

http://lnkd.in/b-q3te  David - I'd agree that having a focus on system memory in CES is an important distinction. Some of the effect of...

5 May, 2012

1255

http://lnkd.in/QkswEu  David, In relation to my "Natural Systems" view and "Total Environmental Assessment"(TEA) as a kind of action...

4 May, 2012

1254

http://lnkd.in/W95xPZ  David, In relation to my "Natural Systems" view and "Total Environmental Assessment"(TEA) as a kind of action...

4 May, 2012

1253

http://lnkd.in/98R6th  Jack, Thanks for the links. I am surprised I didn't first recognize Warfield on the list, of course, but glad to...

4 May, 2012

1252

http://lnkd.in/AY6qS9  Gene - That's a good question, to ask: "while I get the sense of a loop I wonder why they talk about it being in a...

4 May, 2012

1251

http://lnkd.in/_Y6wrR  Jack - I'd like it if there was a common syntax for ST too. I gather that is what you're saying by asking "How...

4 May, 2012

1250

http://lnkd.in/cPzF8h  One problem with "Going Solid" that really must be looked at, is a kind of pernicious environmental problem. It's...

3 May, 2012

1249

http://lnkd.in/VCHA6P  What about interpreting the difference between systems dynamics and systems thinking as, SD being the study of...

3 May, 2012

1248

http://lnkd.in/4k55cZ  Lewis - I'm backlogged, but from your latest post I think these are quoteable! "the need to think of it...

3 May, 2012

1247

http://lnkd.in/ZuK7h7  Helene - Bonnita and you both seem to speak of your own observations on naturally occurring creative processes. To...

2 May, 2012

1246

http://lnkd.in/bbn9B4  Jack - You asked: "Re:"...but also of differences between those and what *model* systems are able to faithfully...

1 May, 2012

1245

http://lnkd.in/gYVerV  Ferenc - You say "we are all led in the forst with no compass at all, no sun out, no way to get out of the maze....

1 May, 2012

1244

http://lnkd.in/VE7-qZ  Helene, I did, but then realized that my view, that contrasts with the popular one, would not be possible to...

1 May, 2012

1243

http://lnkd.in/4kqtji  Gene & David, David said "that being the case and since I absolutely don't want the article to be a representative...

1 May, 2012

1242

http://lnkd.in/Na2BwY  Lewis - There's a catch I find in saying "the inherent process is quantum based". The catch I see that QM was...

1 May, 2012

1241

http://lnkd.in/JycK76  Lewis - I'd agree, that synthetic systems seem to only exist in virtual reality. What tells me that is importantly...

1 May, 2012

1240

http://lnkd.in/hJm4mg  Jessie Henshaw o Ferenc David - The examples of larger scales of systems like "a forest", that interact with other...

1 May, 2012

1239

http://lnkd.in/mk7vr5  Ferenc David - The examples of larger scales of systems like "a forest", that interact with other systems on their...

1 May, 2012

1238

http://lnkd.in/T4gGdr  Jessie Henshaw o Jack - [note edit] I think that's a very good addition to what I was saying. It's not just a...

1 May, 2012

1237

http://lnkd.in/rdwHHf Jack - I think that's a very good addition to what I was saying. It's not just a problem of differences between...

1 May, 2012

1236

http://lnkd.in/Nsih4u What about the indefinable, but often evident, difference between natural physical relationships between things and...

30 Apr, 2012

1235

http://lnkd.in/eSfj82 Gene David - [note edits] I think the confusion the public experiences with either systems dynamics or systems...

30 Apr, 2012

1234

http://lnkd.in/wryiCV George Your ask "Is systems thinking almost a massage?" I'd say a lot of massaging seems to go on in human...

30 Apr, 2012

1233

http://lnkd.in/sV5PgV Gene David - I think the confusion the public experiences with either systems dynamics or systems thinking is...

30 Apr, 2012

1232

http://lnkd.in/Rrb_Wv Gene Peter - Yes, that is a very nice way to break it down, and come to the question "AND so what's the answer?"....

30 Apr, 2012

1231

http://lnkd.in/qxiZqe Ferenc - So I would agree and simplify it a bit, saying that we have a familiar syntax for language that we learned...

30 Apr, 2012

1230

http://lnkd.in/vf2ufA Ferenc - My last post responding to David says more about "self-defining" as a property of objects of nature, as...

29 Apr, 2012

1229

http://lnkd.in/xbQJFx David - I think of "system boundaries" in two ways. One is the "physical boundary" of a system. It's...

29 Apr, 2012

1228

http://lnkd.in/sZZdHr David - I keep trying to point directly to what I see as the "failures of foresight" that justify your "sense the...

29 Apr, 2012

1227

http://lnkd.in/DgNVaE David - What I described as a systemic problem, apparent in the tragedy at the Somerset Dam, does generally fit...

28 Apr, 2012

1226

http://lnkd.in/XSn8K3 Ferenc - I think in saying "In principle all search is a waste and is needed beacseu of a total disorderly state of...

28 Apr, 2012

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http://lnkd.in/-hCkXk T.A. - you may be right about Aristotle advancing case based learning, which would show a more practical bent than...

28 Apr, 2012

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http://lnkd.in/y7g2hf David - You certainly have a point about criticizing Aristotle, as his language and issues were so different that...

28 Apr, 2012

1223

http://lnkd.in/MwsMAJ Well... there's a simply tremendous amount of knowledge represented by the gaps in one's knowledge. It takes a...

28 Apr, 2012

1222

http://lnkd.in/vM6Ytr Ferenc - Well, the most common words that connect to nature are words that are defined by the self-defining object...

28 Apr, 2012

1221

http://lnkd.in/y8rQP3 David - In looking for books on Total Systems Intervention I found Robert L. Flood's books, and that he teaches at...

28 Apr, 2012

1220

http://lnkd.in/EdCjxq Darius - I was talking about behavioral knowledge, how we use highly sophisticated primitive emotional calculus for...

27 Apr, 2012

1219

http://lnkd.in/4YFN8q There seem to be a lot of off topic posts. Should this page be used to discuss need for transforming our use of...

27 Apr, 2012

1218

http://lnkd.in/z3r6pG Ferenc - Yes, there is a "great clutter" of purported forms of knowledge "knowledge representations basically...

27 Apr, 2012

1217

http://lnkd.in/fNf3mf Darius - You say "To find the common ground we have to go back in time to pre-human times. So far there has been a...

27 Apr, 2012

1216

http://lnkd.in/2b6F7z Ferenc - You seem to think of "search" as "random". That is indeed a big waste of energy for the results you get,...

27 Apr, 2012

1215

http://lnkd.in/GYheYQ David - I haven't had a chance yet to study Burns' work, but I would quite strongly agree with the need to...

27 Apr, 2012

1214

http://lnkd.in/Vw3YDr T.A. David - It seems Aristotle's use of "Phronesis, or practical wisdom, he contrasted with episteme (conceptual...

27 Apr, 2012

1213

http://lnkd.in/KSGRgq David You say "I would argue that an ecological narrative is much better. It shows how organisms start as members...

26 Apr, 2012

1212

http://lnkd.in/aXYCDZ Kamran - You say having different schools of systems thinking, with different perspectives, could be constructive,...

26 Apr, 2012

1211

http://lnkd.in/RD7_2B Jack - You asked "pls tell me the relatonship between your right foot and the concept, system, and I may be able to...

26 Apr, 2012

1210

http://lnkd.in/Wbhg5k karthikeyan and Lewis, What about using the natural language term "invasive" for describing systems that grow at...

26 Apr, 2012

1209

http://lnkd.in/y-qb3H Ferenc - I think what Helene and I are trying to do is offer a way to talk to people who usually think of their own...

26 Apr, 2012

1208

http://lnkd.in/vyMEtu Lewis - I think you're unusual in conceptualizing science as what it should be, using models to help us discuss the...

26 Apr, 2012

1207

http://lnkd.in/pgcvxp I'm surprised the difference between models, as sets of abstract of rules for numbers, and self-organizing physical...

26 Apr, 2012

1206

http://lnkd.in/hMavhb Helene, I just noticed your comment three days ago about systems having an inside and appearing as a sphere from...

26 Apr, 2012

1205

http://lnkd.in/sVYyqX Well, if models are so capable of representing open systems in nature, how come we have a world economic system...

25 Apr, 2012

1204

http://lnkd.in/BKq3TV Jack - So, when you say "it might be useful to remember that 'natural' systems are only human models of what's...

25 Apr, 2012

1203

http://lnkd.in/f7ffr9 Gene, One big thing models seem unable to do is duplicate the flowing "everywhere at once" process of continual...

25 Apr, 2012

1202

http://lnkd.in/VwBswf David - I don't understand the methods you refer to as well as some, but have done a lot of research on how to...

25 Apr, 2012

1201

http://lnkd.in/AgXYNk Helene, The more direct reason I seem to be on a campaign against efficiency is really for another reason than it...

25 Apr, 2012

1200

http://lnkd.in/mBFTtr To have much meaning, doesn't a "systems model" need to refer to, as by exemplifying, some individual or group of...

24 Apr, 2012

1199

http://lnkd.in/Qdnqsn Joe S. - I don't think you quite get my premise. I'm not saying that there is only one correct understanding of...

24 Apr, 2012

1198

http://lnkd.in/CSwcSy Over the years I've started looking more at the common omissions of the "great" thinkers, and finding that quite...

24 Apr, 2012

1197

http://lnkd.in/ApCwwS Well, for "root causes" I first look at two things, if I can trace the issue back to some origin, and then...

24 Apr, 2012

1196

http://lnkd.in/vFCT7z Lewis, it has always seemed to me that the easiest definitive way to state the length of a piece of string is 100%.

24 Apr, 2012

1195

http://lnkd.in/c-g5pr Well... Blodget does overlook that for our present circumstance Keynes actually would have called for something...

24 Apr, 2012

1194

http://lnkd.in/GuxYJ2 Sometimes considering both the "inside view" and the "outside view" of the same thing helps expose important...

24 Apr, 2012

1193

http://lnkd.in/7PaB9t John K., I'd agree that "growth is an emotive word" in how most people use it. In particular people often don't...

23 Apr, 2012

1192

http://lnkd.in/C563a8 Ferenc - You said to Helene, "Therefore I see humanity as the disease, but as we are successulf as parasites and...

23 Apr, 2012

1191

http://lnkd.in/w-r-Pp John K. - You say to Farenc "start with better questions" . I think that also requires starting with better...

23 Apr, 2012

1190

http://lnkd.in/gVrems William - Thanks so much for the support!! Still, that there might be "fundamental differences between how models...

22 Apr, 2012

1189

http://lnkd.in/9BfV8x John K. - You ask, "what are you going to monitor them with x or gamma rays?". I gather you're referring to...

22 Apr, 2012

1188

http://lnkd.in/MnMheG Helene - Yes, I do have a particular method behind what you liked, saying: "I like your idea of closely watching...

22 Apr, 2012

1187

http://lnkd.in/pWTtvs T.A. I like your quote from Sterman but question whether he quite read it himself sometimes! I've had a few...

21 Apr, 2012

1186

http://lnkd.in/MGh-pd Lewis, From what I understand about chaos theory it's about probabilities in a conceptual phase space, rather than...

20 Apr, 2012

1185

http://lnkd.in/PCmmFV John K. - Right, some models are miraculously accurate in predicting natural phenomena, but prediction still isn't...

20 Apr, 2012

1184

Like... is thinking it's OK to do evil to others so long as we profit ourselves a mark left by our domestication as slaves in ancient past?

20 Apr, 2012

1183

America would be great, if people weren't so totally misinformed. Our culture just doesn't teach us to learn by observation, just hearsay!

20 Apr, 2012

1182

http://lnkd.in/By2YG9 John K. - Why do you think systems in nature work by models? Clearly WE generally think of systems *as our...

19 Apr, 2012

1181

http://lnkd.in/U7WY8w Peter - I wish I knew how to respond more briefly, but you pose such interesting questions! I think the problem...

19 Apr, 2012

1180

http://lnkd.in/2h98U5 John - but.. is there any evidence that nature actually works by models, or is it just specially evolved...

19 Apr, 2012

1179

http://lnkd.in/zxqKnT John & Lewis - One of the added handicaps for computation as a model of nature is the natural lack of data for...

19 Apr, 2012

1178

http://lnkd.in/-qqpGt lewis The engaging question is on this thread, is the UN call for revolutionary thinking, to find an economic...

19 Apr, 2012

1177

http://lnkd.in/e4FC-w lewis Right, one of the more easily noticed differences between equations and nature is nature shows constantly...

18 Apr, 2012

1176

http://lnkd.in/uB4AYY Thorbjoern Sorry if I mixed up your view and that of the book you were reviewing... Oops! I think the moral...

18 Apr, 2012

1175

http://lnkd.in/PPg8c9 Lewis C. If what you're saying is that one's math is only as good as the question about the real world you're...

17 Apr, 2012

1174

http://lnkd.in/wqMg49 TA - For development processes you can physically change the sign of a growth rate with little physical strain,...

17 Apr, 2012

1173

http://lnkd.in/CxrWQ8 Thorbjoern You say the study consisted of "several runs based on different constellations of policy assumptions...

17 Apr, 2012

1172

http://lnkd.in/vbP-id T.A. Balasubraminian - I do like Bardi's take on it. My report on the 40th anniversary meeting (in DC on Mar 1)...

17 Apr, 2012

1171

http://lnkd.in/g38Abu Gene B - What Kuhn actually said was that learning of new paradigms occurs by new generations replacing old, rather...

17 Apr, 2012

1170

http://lnkd.in/TqRirv Peter B - Your concluding remark helps detail my view of co-existent "ways of thinking", saying: "Each approach, or...

17 Apr, 2012

1169

http://lnkd.in/w-zAb7 Barry L - But if you look at it objectively, your statement could be a candidate for the kind of socially defined...

17 Apr, 2012

1168

http://lnkd.in/3MtuTb Lewis not sure what your reference is when saying "nothing could be further from the truth" directly following my...

16 Apr, 2012

1167

http://lnkd.in/myBpm7 Gene, I proposed a systemic perspective in my above comment, that of a changing natural world with human society...

16 Apr, 2012

1166

http://lnkd.in/P3ctSN John, But we still live on the same planet, even if we see different realities. I think you realize what I'm...

16 Apr, 2012

1165

http://lnkd.in/Erq6aB To me "transcending paradigms" means somehow finding a way to violate T.S. Kuhn's observation that scientists just...

16 Apr, 2012

1164

http://lnkd.in/zed8uK Well, I understand economics too. I'm proposing that because of how we changed the planet it would be more...

16 Apr, 2012

1163

http://lnkd.in/p3yAJ7 Perhaps the "revolutionary thinking" needed would be a finite investment plan for society, rather than an ever...

16 Apr, 2012

1162

http://lnkd.in/VFfchS So I'll suggest to Aleks to look up your concept of "original systems" in you trilogy. I work from a theorem I...

16 Apr, 2012

1161

http://lnkd.in/fEZNaW So I'll suggest to Aleks to look up your concept of "original systems" in you trilogy. I work from a theorem I...

16 Apr, 2012

1160

http://lnkd.in/F3gRss Maybe you know my Slovenian friend Aleks Jackulin, a data miner and info theorist who has worked with me....

16 Apr, 2012

1159

@adolfzizek Maybe you know my Slovenian friend Aleks Jackulin, a data miner and info theorist who has worked with me.http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~jakulin/

16 Apr, 2012

1158

http://lnkd.in/G3KsEZ Well, a model help keep you from having to start from scratch all the time, like a template of good questions to...

15 Apr, 2012

1157

http://lnkd.in/yyegtY Really great that you see that. It leaves me at the perennial impasse, though, stuck in a scientific all but...

15 Apr, 2012

1156

http://lnkd.in/F_k3Jg More accurately, I studying the kinds of important things nature's systems do physically, that models (and model...

15 Apr, 2012

1155

http://lnkd.in/tishat Thanks. That's further than the great majority of theorists will go in recognizing the natural limits of theory....

15 Apr, 2012

1154

http://lnkd.in/DYreTh I'm just asking how you connect your conceptual models of relationships to the real ones in our world. I know Bohr...

13 Apr, 2012

1153

http://lnkd.in/r6GX62 Well, yes, sure. That defines your study as being one of models, and not one of the subjects of interest in...

13 Apr, 2012

1152

http://lnkd.in/fKMmDS That is... until you try to make it a mapping between a model and some subject of interest in the natural world,...

13 Apr, 2012

1151

@giyom It's in how savings are not used unless putting money in to take more out is promised, net returns vary but that drives the whole.

10 Apr, 2012

1150

Getting bigger ever faster... still the gold standard sustainability plan for post modern business, what the public wants...!

9 Apr, 2012

1149

@Adbusters - A new model of living sure to survive & enrich more than most is being a boundary spanning link between many social networks.

9 Apr, 2012

1148

Truly smashing Ausi records. In one place, the LOW recorded on day was higher than the existing RECORD HIGH for March!http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1057&message=41007115

8 Apr, 2012

1147

What to regulate and what not... an endless question.http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/558748_10150658804081275_177486166274_9728204_1140150600_n.jpg

8 Apr, 2012

1146

Trees are at least a renewable resource... Computers may not be. A dependence on ever more efficient depletion of non-renewables has an end.

1 Apr, 2012

1145

Commented on Getting a Read on the Supremes - Left, Right & Center on KCRW / Left, Right & Center - KCRW http://bit.ly/H6bc2a

1 Apr, 2012

1144

Commented on Getting a Read on the Supremes - Left, Right & Center on KCRW / Left, Right & Center - KCRW http://bit.ly/H6b030

1 Apr, 2012

1143

Commented on Getting a Read on the Supremes - Left, Right & Center on KCRW / Left, Right & Center - KCRW http://bit.ly/HbHwDF

1 Apr, 2012

1142

Commented on Getting a Read on the Supremes - Left, Right & Center on KCRW / Left, Right & Center - KCRW http://bit.ly/H5A4Hs

1 Apr, 2012

1141

@Revkin @malekanoms - What's usually missing when people see one curve causing another is why the environment might do that now & not before

30 Mar, 2012

1140

http://lnkd.in/YidQZy There's a problem with the data collecting strategies for complex system models. None seem able to crack the...

26 Mar, 2012

1139

http://lnkd.in/Bk63qq Simple examples of self-organization like those really help. The common habit of explaining everything with...

25 Mar, 2012

1138

http://lnkd.in/kgTqxm To complement that, one should also be aware of important modeling issues not often discussed in the math texts...

23 Mar, 2012

1137

Commented on Going for Brokered? - Left, Right & Center on KCRW / Left, Right & Center - KCRW http://bit.ly/xFfLWo

18 Mar, 2012

1136

Those flurries of disruptions that seem to come from nowhere? All come from needing to rely on unreliable things we never needed to before.

13 Mar, 2012

1135

Somehow people don't get it, that its the cosmos that is on fire, and humans minds just dreaming, *not the reverse*.

13 Mar, 2012

1134

"No tomorrow"... a new high standard in "peak everything" films.http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/theres-no-tomorrow/

13 Mar, 2012

1133

@rupertposner ..Perhaps not including all the out sourced energy used to make renewable energy and deliver out sourced goods and services..

13 Mar, 2012

1132

@Grist ...more secrets on shale gas and escalating energy price volatility http://grist.org/natural-gas/natural-born-drillers-why-shale-gas-wont-end-our-energy-woes/

12 Mar, 2012

1131

http://lnkd.in/BahcqD There's another way that rediscovering "orphaned ideas" can be seen as critical to economic recovery. There's a...

9 Mar, 2012

1130

http://lnkd.in/tqX-_3 There's another way that rediscovering "orphaned ideas" can be seen as critical to economic recovery. There's a...

9 Mar, 2012

1129

math intuitive thinkers can feel, and imagery mathematical thinkers can reason http://www.synapse9.com/signals/2012/03/08/with-endless-exploding-energy/

9 Mar, 2012

1128

@growthbusters Grantham points to resource loss to trump Buffet's denial, but wrong idea of how investors guide change.http://www.synapse9.com/pub/ASustInvestMoment-PH.pdf

2 Mar, 2012

1127

http://lnkd.in/cM25BY Dave and Domenico, As a senior architect I've found the creative challenge is discovering what the particular piece...

28 Feb, 2012

1126

http://lnkd.in/am-ZNr Yes, early insights are often lost. But moral logic aside, does any amount of "sympathy" or "empathy" remove the...

28 Feb, 2012

1125

Ethical Analysis of Disinformation Tactics: Reckless Disregard, Focus On Unknowns, Specious Claims, Front Groups. http://j.mp/ysuXtB

27 Feb, 2012

1124

Ethical Analysis of the Climate Change Disinformation Campaign: Introduction to A Series. http://j.mp/zZXagm

27 Feb, 2012

1123

http://lnkd.in/d4BEjB Well, the biggest hazard is making blind choices based on your theory, whatever it is, rather than choosing to be...

27 Feb, 2012

1122

http://lnkd.in/XHGNXm One of the troubles with innovation for finding new solutions for ones that have stopped working is how that...

26 Feb, 2012

1121

http://lnkd.in/D8dqdW Why people see growth as a magical process, as if only depending on blessings of some god or a sacred manifest or...

22 Feb, 2012

 

End of long series of Tweeted principles for observing and responding to systems of nature

 

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lnkd.in/D8dqdW Why people see growth as a magical process, as if only depending on blessings of some god or a sacred manifest or...

22 Feb 2012

 

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and... so, I think *that seems to solve everything*!

21 Feb 2012

1209

@Ethical_Corp @CapInstitute @postgrowth @shareabledesign The message is.. unethical profits multiply unethical influence, and we're silent.

21 Feb 2012

1208

We"aid" the banks, no message attached, who just use it to take ever more, multiplying our risks and their influence again. The message is?

21 Feb 2012

1207

@postgrowth @shareabledesign Ever wonder why profitable unethical behavior gains ever growing influence, and that of self-restraint doesn't?
 In reply to PostGrowth Institute

21 Feb 2012

1206

@postgrowth @beyondGreenUK Some day we'll find, prospering by taking control of ever more of everything else, is what others are doing too.
 In reply to PostGrowth Institute

20 Feb 2012

1205

lnkd.in/p_d9Am From reading the methodology it seems Tweets were linked by referring to links with the NY Times. That's possibly...

20 Feb 2012

1204

lnkd.in/vyTBX5 That graphic is great, and will help popularize this approach. It was originated by Barabasi, who I'm sure gets...

20 Feb 2012

1203

When investors just skim profits to multiply good bets, they're not investing in anything, but picking the pockets of a compliant world.

20 Feb 2012

1202

True investors don't take the world's profits to multiply their own, but spend their returns to support, not tax, what they care about.

20 Feb 2012

1201

It's confusing at first but then helps, how all "rules of life" and "laws of science" are made local, to the system of nature they're in.

20 Feb 2012

1200

Building things up is a solution till you get to where they fall over, when reality becomes as unstable as our information often is anyway.

20 Feb 2012

1199

@donmacca If it's not a lack of hard work, but increasing resistance from the earth, it's the greedy needing "Om" to find peace another way.
 In reply to Donnie Maclurcan

20 Feb 2012

1198

It's NOT a lack of hard work, by anyone. It's *increasing resistance* from the earth. More hard work doesn't solve, just makes worse.

20 Feb 2012

1197

So, is that how this works, everyone gets to live their own fantasy life while our world dies? Society is clearly fiddling while Rome burns.

19 Feb 2012

1196

What America truly wants is "Clean horsepower, that burns up the road". Is that scale of detachment the scale of loss ahead, 80% or so??

19 Feb 2012

1195

If we don't use our creativity to reinvent the idea of profit, it's as certain as gravity that what we've been building won't survive.

19 Feb 2012

1194

What nature actually likes is not our social values, but a growing process of building things that turns to preserving what was built.

19 Feb 2012

1193

That investor choice, to preserve the whole rather than enrich themselves, actually ends up being more profitable, why nature likes it.

19 Feb 2012

1192

Where growth doesn't end in tragedy it's using profit to look for growing profit that turns to preserving the whole, an investor choice.

19 Feb 2012

1191

On any planet, for any species, searching for profit that multiplies profit brings wealth to all with a high risk of impoverishing all.

19 Feb 2012

1190

@ecomagination The best way to waste good ideas is to multiply them till your environment fails. - mankind's most ancient misconception -
 In reply to ecomagination

19 Feb 2012

1189

@giyom Of course, growth to a tragic end isn't from all bets remaining positive, but people finding positive bets to multiply till all fail.
 In reply to Guillaume Lebleu

19 Feb 2012

1188

Exactly how we bet on the earth being infinite is investing for ever growing profits, a formula for cancers that ends in killing their host.

18 Feb 2012

1187

@Revkin The one tsunami the #AAASmtg doesn't explore, though, is our own ever growing wave of investment in the earth being infinite.
 In reply to Andy Revkin

18 Feb 2012

1186

@giyom What seems to break any trusted currency is giving people what they want, a guarantee of sure bets so their savings can multiply.
 In reply to Guillaume Lebleu

18 Feb 2012

1185

@thinkprogress Yes, stimulus worked again to restore our growing depletion of the earth, a 10,000 year track record of great success!! ;-)
 In reply to ThinkProgress

18 Feb 2012

1184

It's harder to find out what it is that allows our whole society to so peacefully sleep through our exhaustion of the earth.

18 Feb 2012

1183

Tragic, but it's being "innovative" that has us sustaining our increasing rate of resource depletion, thinking we're creating resources...

18 Feb 2012

1182

@nelderini @postcarbon What's new on "peak everything" is why the economy hits it as a whole, with internal conflict.synapse9.com/pub/ASustInves
 In reply to Chris Nelder

18 Feb 2012

1181

The Greeks made mistakes but are being screwed, too. All lose bigger if bond holders don't spend their profits instead of taking ever more.

18 Feb 2012

1180

@thinkprogress Why investors were taxed less than labor was that multiplying investment in consuming the planet once seemed very productive.
 In reply to ThinkProgress

18 Feb 2012

1179

What to do if you just don't want to support the "plant your seed to multiply seed till our host dies" lifestyle, we use for prosperity?

18 Feb 2012

1178

@thetakeaway Why is it the Catholic church saying it can impose it's religious law, as if Sharia, on its employees? Are they confused?

17 Feb 2012

1177

@HeleneFinidori @SavoryInstitute Yes, exactly. The motive for "big money" is how profit taking to take more is itself becoming unprofitable.
 In reply to Helene Finidori

17 Feb 2012

1176

@HeleneFinidori @SavoryInstitute Most investors confuse it as taking profits from one thing, to then take ever more from something else...!

17 Feb 2012

1175

@HeleneFinidori @SavoryInstitute To be viable, everything needs to make a profit, but not to multiply, and so stress any environment.

17 Feb 2012

1174

@HeleneFinidori @SavoryInstitute To correct the scaling errors of capitalism, profits aren't used to grow profits, if the earth is stressed.

17 Feb 2012

1173

@HeleneFinidori @SavoryInstitute .. I think to "scale it up" as you want, you'd add to it what corrects the scaling errors of capitalism.

17 Feb 2012

1172

@HeleneFinidori @SavoryInstitute The rub is "how can this be scaled?" is what capitalism solves, with ever scaling benefits now the problem.
 In reply to Helene Finidori

17 Feb 2012

1171

Isn't it odd, how "the thing in our heads" creates a whole world of its own, not seeing the inside of ANYTHING else on earth to do it? :-)

17 Feb 2012

1170

@Revkin Our thinking STILL counts "no direct evidence" as "no evidence", though clear untraced effects are ENORMOUS.synapse9.com/SEA
 In reply to Andy Revkin

17 Feb 2012

1169

@InvasiveNotes ...And the "invasive species" to watch is "us". SO struck by the realities we observe, caring ONLY about our beliefs.
 In reply to John Peter Thompson

17 Feb 2012

1168

Anyone can see our mental reality isn't nature's, but telling how when we act on our thinking but BUT DON'T EVEN WATCH NATURE'S, is SO hard!

17 Feb 2012

1167

We seek SUCH valid dreams with SUCH invalid methods, SEEING reality but, but then CONFUSING it with magical ideas in our heads, WHEN ACTING.

17 Feb 2012

1166

So much good to do, harm to correct, friendship and learning to enjoy, but we consume everything useful on earth ever faster, to serve it???

17 Feb 2012

1165

Isn't it strange?? China is furiously trying to "CATCH UP" by rapidly building out a whole economy of quite outmoded high energy technology!

16 Feb 2012

1164

It *seems* that natural systems created by their own growth have no internal design or behavior, but *it's only quite hidden* from our view,

16 Feb 2012

1163

A GLIMMER OF HOPE when even big scientific journals start to talk about reality; how changing the earth changes us.ourfiniteworld.com/2012/02/12/thr

16 Feb 2012

1162

What goes wrong when growth ends before its limits ?synapse9.com/signals/2012/0…

16 Feb 2012

1161

Words let you say *such big things*, knowing nothing about them. The older and larger language of life is in "doing", 99.9% lost to words.

16 Feb 2012

1160

Gender is also one of those subjects important to an information society, about which there is still much more to "do than say" reality.

16 Feb 2012

1159

Part of how self-managing systems work inside, is to respond naturally as their plan for growth becomes unmanageable, to stop following it.

15 Feb 2012

1158

How the design we chose for our economy is like a cancer is in it's design to grow as fast as possible till it kills its host, and itself.

15 Feb 2012

1157

Having essentially no information on how the self-managing systems of nature work, we inadvertently designed our economy like a cancer.

15 Feb 2012

1156

The real error is thinking our information tells us how the world works, *entirely missing* how self-managing systems are organized inside.

15 Feb 2012

1155

My having SO much fun finding the errors letting us destroy the earth, doesn't make up for the isolation of having to watch it happen.

15 Feb 2012

1154

Could technology be an ever entertaining game of learning about the planet instead of like now, an ever entertaining game of burning it up?

15 Feb 2012

1153

@Revkin The "reality math" of #KXL CO2 reveals one of many, all showing outsourced energy impacts ~x4 what's measured.synapse9.com/SEA
 In reply to Andy Revkin

14 Feb 2012

1152

lnkd.in/s6QEVF Well, it presses the credulity of intellectuals more than informal thinkers. There's a very interesting property...

14 Feb 2012

1151

@Ethical_Corp It's a BIG ethical challenge is resist addressing traceable harms and neglect growing ones that aren't.synapse9.com/signals/2012/0…
 In reply to Ethical Corporation

14 Feb 2012

1150

lnkd.in/EdfiBB Would you like a real discussion of how and why our economies became designed for a different kind of planet than...

14 Feb 2012

1149

@Revkin If nature listened to our values, we'd have a different world. There's no way she can speed things up for us to slow them down tho.
 In reply to Andy Revkin

13 Feb 2012

1148

@Revkin Maybe my problem is most everyone speaks as if nature is a social phenomenon, as if "nature is listening" and all we need is belief.
 In reply to Andy Revkin

13 Feb 2012

1147

@Revkin You don't see the "green faith" in speeding up the economy to slow its growing impacts as "lost opportunity"?synapse9.com/pub/EffMultipl
 In reply to Andy Revkin

13 Feb 2012

1146

@ClimateReality Check the 4x "reality math" for facts. True CO2 footprints need all the outsourced fuel uses too.synapse9.com/signals
 In reply to Climate Reality

13 Feb 2012

1145

Expecting growth in a shrinking world makes sense only to the senseless. It asks nature, "Oh could we please have ever growing conflict?"

13 Feb 2012

1144

@johnmsmart Found 2008 blog post, of letter to you with no address - Multilevel selection in evolution – Devo-evo?synapse9.com/signals/2008/1…

13 Feb 2012

1143

All it causes... is *missing so much* of what's happening, saving the earth then positively accelerates our failures.synapse9.com/signals/2012/0…

13 Feb 2012

1142

"Who would care" if there was a perfectly practical way to do it, from observing natural successions, and that theory is all in our heads.

13 Feb 2012

1141

Just not studying how real processes emerge seems *so much simpler*. Our mental models are too simplistic and missing most of the data too!

13 Feb 2012

1140

"Scientists unconcerned" by real systems too hidden to record and too evolving to model "Sure we see them, but just study theory instead"

13 Feb 2012

1139

One proof is in how OUR systems work, guided by self-interest, misled into destroying the earth, believing nature follows our theories.

12 Feb 2012

1138

SO MUCH IS HIDDEN inside systems that work by themselves, it's unscientific to treat nature as working by our theories.synapse9.com/signals/2012/0…

12 Feb 2012

1137

@InvasiveNotes @CBSNews Well... in that odd sense, that terrorism is really intended as "people power" and we usually don't like the people.
 In reply to John Peter Thompson

12 Feb 2012

1136

The "reality math" says the ONLY way these big financial bailouts actually work, is for bond holders to then SPEND their restored profits.

12 Feb 2012

1135

But if all around you are people who believe the world is a creation of their own consciousness, don't you have to just agree with them?

12 Feb 2012

1134

With every business needing ever growing shares of the earth, I guess we now all agree, the ultimate good &evil are one and the same thing.

12 Feb 2012

1133

@newscientist Ohi! The blame game goes in circles. Why the Earth Summit is doomed is because of us, expecting gov & biz to stabilize growth.

11 Feb 2012

1132

@Revkin Yea, why did we not design more secure software? Is it not possible, or just not imaginable for whole nations to be so dishonest!
 In reply to Andy Revkin

11 Feb 2012

1131

Still confused. Why does "religious freedom" relieve religious employers of the need to protect the religious freedom of their employees?

11 Feb 2012

1130

Isn't it odd, our world choice of ever bigger and more complex solutions for still faster growing problems as our path to peace & security?

11 Feb 2012

1129

Even today, 2012, a hundred years late, almost no one sees why the earth wouldn't as infinite as ideas, with our options visibly vanishing.

11 Feb 2012

1128

@Revkin - The rub.. is productivity has been exhausting resources faster than new productivity creates them, driving a loss of opportunity.

11 Feb 2012

1127

@Revkin Well, Andy, You sound so ignorant to dismiss both #KXLand why nature dismisses politics; our ever growing need for using things up.
 In reply to Andy Revkin

11 Feb 2012

1126

@AAASMeetings Could “reality math” help the AAAS?? #AAASmtgsynapse9.com/signals/2012/0…

11 Feb 2012

1125

Why does "reality math" matter?? People see their information as their reality. This math corrects our misinformation on the impacts of $'s.

11 Feb 2012

1124

@InvasiveNotes Do you count the "reality math", of ~8000btu/$ ??synapse9.com/SEA
 In reply to John Peter Thompson

11 Feb 2012

1123

The "reality math" is: "Average" impacts per $ is far more accurate than "0". synapse9.com/SEA So unreported impacts get counted.

11 Feb 2012

1122

The "reality math" is embarrassing, OK, like exposing the Maldives' growing a high carbon economy, but WHAT deserves the embarrassment here?

11 Feb 2012

1121

Avoiding "reality math", REALLY doesn't promote sustainability. All money has much closer to average impacts than zero.synapse9.com/SEA

11 Feb 2012

1120

"Finding reality" takes two ways to explain things 1) for a reality in our minds we invent and 2) another for things nature invents, not us.

10 Feb 2012

1119

Piling up money till it collapses is piling up the future we're building till it collapses too. If "just numbers", it wouldn't collapse.

10 Feb 2012

1118

We could back off a bit, to see "piling up our dreams till they collapse" as "piling up our dreams till they collapse". It's only reality.

10 Feb 2012

1117

The solutions for saving the environment have given us multiplying problems to address, somehow. Is it our dodging the real questions?

10 Feb 2012

1116

A great thing about sacred beliefs, is how unquestionable they become. Would doubting our beliefs then, give us much more reliable ones??

10 Feb 2012

1115

so are we distracted from seeing "piling up stuff till it collapses" as "piling up stuff till it collapses", by "thinking with no thinking"?

9 Feb 2012

1114

@Adbusters Well, the violence of choice is "language violence", so enthralling even those you're attacking can't stop passing it around.
 In reply to Adbusters Magazine

9 Feb 2012

1113

lnkd.in/h8cs9b Yes I'd generally agree, though one's choice of pejoratives is generally a kind of personal thing. Our two "main...

9 Feb 2012

1112

You can see a fragility of birth in "the wilting of the Arab Spring", not following freedom with a period of calm, for making things work.

9 Feb 2012

1111

The fragility of birth, to cut all ties with your prior source of life, while still weak, is very dangerous, and even more dangerous not to.

9 Feb 2012

1110

Our growth guidance system, as a feeble shoot, still defines using up its seed resource faster as more profitable than putting down roots.

9 Feb 2012

1109

A seedling is most vulnerable as a feeble shoot, at its limits of growth using the seed's fossil fuel, before it has taken root. Us too.

9 Feb 2012

1108

lnkd.in/EAVA7h Clif, Well, the first thing seems for "mankind to see what game it's playing", before it can tell how we’re playing...

8 Feb 2012

1107

#enoughwhat A benefit of recognizing your own limits is the freedom and security you get from not losing control of events that matter more.

8 Feb 2012

1106

#enoughwhat Enough with thinking money has no impacts, though it's plain we use it to request physical services, and we just don't see how!

8 Feb 2012

1105

#enoughwhat Enough of thinking that on a shrinking planet, taking more and more for yourself doesn't rob someone else.

8 Feb 2012

1104

#enoughwhat Enough thinking we "know it all" just because how nature organizes things leaves most observers utterly "out of the loop".

8 Feb 2012

1103

#enoughwhat Enough thinking our globally shrinking resources are "unknown" and so maybe infinite... even as their prices go ever upward..

8 Feb 2012

1102

@echoinggreen Our information is like "Swiss cheese" as market and natural systems leave observers "out of the loop".synapse9.com/signals/2012/0…

8 Feb 2012

1101

@echoinggreen #infographics for why our information on how nature works is SO full of holes. synapse9.com/issues/images/… fromsynapse9.com/signals/2012/0…
 In reply to Echoing Green

8 Feb 2012

1100

lnkd.in/gXqBAx I don't know if I can jump directly from the reasoning above, but definitely agree in principle. One difficulty...

8 Feb 2012

1099

lnkd.in/WgenAP I don't know if I can directly use the reasoning here. I agree in principle, but note things like that the natural...

8 Feb 2012

1098

lnkd.in/3mfVmh But... as the saying goes, "there's no profit in it". These kind of dreamy schemes don't offer anything for the...

6 Feb 2012

1097

@Revkin ...but we're not going to sway public opinion if reducing CO2 for a financially strapped world competes for resources with growth.
 In reply to Andy Revkin

6 Feb 2012

1096

@thinkprogress - But is that "real" progress, ...still be skirting how the rich can keep *multiplying* their earnings while wages now won't?
 In reply to ThinkProgress

6 Feb 2012

1095

So, what keeps us from ending our own explosive growth is 1) not knowing unknown supplies are finite and 2) how to turn off a growth system.

6 Feb 2012

1094

How resource prices are rising indicates we crossed a natural limit of profitably using their decreasing quality.synapse9.com/pub/ASustInves

6 Feb 2012

1093

Maximizing our resource use efficiency we DOUBLE OUR RESOURCE NEED, and consume as much as in all of economic history, about every 40 years.

6 Feb 2012

1092

Look at the our culture, what still sells is advertising a never ending consumption spree, when we know affordable fuels are running out.

5 Feb 2012

1091

Why didn't they respond to increasingly unaffordable resources? Just like us their rich also probably kept wanting to just get richer.

5 Feb 2012

1090

We'd vanish like the Romans, Mayans and lots of others, depleting our resources till our rich societies just can't afford to keep working.

5 Feb 2012

1089

It's ever increasing rates of depletion for all resources, that decreases their quality to make them unaffordable to use in a crashing wave.

5 Feb 2012

1088

We act as if we realize our known resources are finite, but unaware exhausting our unknown ones VASTLY SPEEDS UP near their useful end.

5 Feb 2012

1087

The mega-wave of resource depletions started with demand food and fuel exceeding supply, and growth ever accelerates those and ALL others.

5 Feb 2012

1086

Isn't it odd, that we're facing a true global resource depletion tsunami, for EVERYTHING the economies find useful, AND NO ONE IS AWARE.

5 Feb 2012

1085

Our world consensus plan for sustaining prosperity **IS** to do what it takes to keep multiply money, as it depletes the earth ever faster.

5 Feb 2012

1084

Why is our whole cultural conversation ignoring the physical world??? It looks as if what's physically happening has no cultural relevance.

5 Feb 2012

1083

@HeleneFinidori Rediscovering what nature is doing inside those voids in our information becomes both fun and highly instructive it seems.

5 Feb 2012

1082

@HeleneFinidori People quite often "make up stuff" for those natural voids in our maps of the world, to drift lazily into magical thinking.

5 Feb 2012

1081

@HeleneFinidori Well, my focus has long been on the curious large voids in our information, around systems nature builds from the inside.
 In reply to Helene Finidori

5 Feb 2012

1080

Is “Big Media” becoming “Big Brother”? Or are we acting out a more common grand human tragedy... living like a cancer?synapse9.com/signals/2012/0…

4 Feb 2012

1079

@HeleneFinidori Yes, and gaps in barriers are openings for active exploration. What if an "information world" favors "magical thinking"?

 

1078

@HeleneFinidori Why no use?? Lots of use!! If you discover you're wasting your time you can do something else. Lots of use!!
 In reply to Helene Finidori

4 Feb 2012

1077

@HeleneFinidori Yes, in our minds that makes sense. The issue is to nature it won't, if what we do has the reverse of the intended effect.
 In reply to Helene Finidori

3 Feb 2012

1076

lnkd.in/8WZEHC Well, the earliest fairly clear prediction inherent systemic financial instability that would produce great waves...

3 Feb 2012

1075

@HeleneFinidori My puzzle is why, if the world isn't working like our theory, "stewards of the earth" question the evidence instead.

 

1074

@HeleneFinidori We've been producing more of that, as well as fossil. Our uses deplete everything else usable on earth exponentially too.
 In reply to Helene Finidori

3 Feb 2012

1073

@yesmagazine @dkorten David, Even with those big steps the most critical one even Keynes pointed out is missing, a natural limit for money.
 In reply to YES! Magazine

3 Feb 2012

1072

@HeleneFinidori You know... like we've been "saving energy" all the time, and every year our energy use in total is growing exponentially...

3 Feb 2012

1071

@HeleneFinidori I've been in the middle of the activation movements for 40 years. People like their beliefs and ignore the reverse effects.
 In reply to Helene Finidori

3 Feb 2012

1070

@thinkprogress ..and "job creation" continues to expand the economy and accelerate our depletion of natural resources exponentially.
 In reply to ThinkProgress

3 Feb 2012

1069

@HeleneFinidori What gets "our ecology for transformation" off its islands of self-affirmation? We seem flustered by the reality of nature.

3 Feb 2012

1068

Regular periods of economic "retooling" causing "The Patterson Cycle" and why is it roughly 14 years long? qr.ae/7fmpu on @Quora

3 Feb 2012

1067

@VenessaMiemis Our ancient cultural "#meta-narrative" is "using our minds to control the world", why we don't notice we're destroying it.
 In reply to Venessa Miemis

3 Feb 2012

1066

@Ethical_Corp - Lesson 11, Always missing from #TopTen is to "Count the impacts of using your profit to keep multiply your impacts."#CSR
 In reply to Ethical Corporation

3 Feb 2012

1065

@InvasiveNotes @EcoInteractive Well... "Northern forests" actually NEVER were able to "trap carbon". Biomass residence time low, CO2's high.
 In reply to John Peter Thompson

3 Feb 2012

1064

@ExperienceLife - "Visionaries striving for a healthier world" need humility too. Pumping the earth dry is mostly for the same goal too.
 In reply to Experience Life

3 Feb 2012

1063

Or is it perhaps not the false ploys but the true ones like Google and Facebook, making the real power of the money multiplier's addicition.

2 Feb 2012

1062

Or is it because we're gullible and easily seduced by false gifts as ploys, paid for by people with a life addiction as a money multiplier.

 

1061

Or was it that someone big gave all our experts marching orders to march us all off over the biggest of all possible cliffs?

 

1060

So really, why are we trying to sustain our prosperity by using up our depleting resources ever faster, something we ate?

 

1059

Komen: We "apologize to the American public for recent decisions that cast doubt...[on] our mission of saving women's lives."
Retweeted by J.L. Henshaw

2 Feb 2012

1058

@webisteme well, sure, the "money multiplier" is the person or business that rents their money to multiply it. It's addictive.
 In reply to Eli Gothill

2 Feb 2012

1057

lnkd.in/yCkDWE OK, but you're still just asking how to represent nature in your model. That’s a study of modeling not of how...

2 Feb 2012

1056

@Adbusters #occupy Really since ~1970 when median incomes leveled off, GDP growth has been ENTIRELY growth in disparity, NOTHING ELSE.

2 Feb 2012

1055

@rushkoff Nature's ideal way to fund the web, so content is made for the viewer, needs a way to offer micro credits to sites as we view.

 

1054

@rushkoff - Doug, from my view of economies as physical systems, your ideas seem *just spot on*, and important. We'd have things to share.

 

1053

@Ethical_Corp - Ah well, see comment, "decoupling" one thing'll multiply our other wicked problems.. #CSR #Keystone awe.sm/5eUPn
 In reply to Ethical Corporation

2 Feb 2012

1052

@STWR_ Helena, I agree with the logic, that the right way to end growth would keep jobs and save the climate too...theeconomicsofhappiness.wordpress.com/2012/01/27/the…
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1 Feb 2012

1051

When you start seeing the economy as an organic behavior of a whole environment, it helps turn your attention away from imposing your rules. 

1 Feb 2012

1050

It really helps explain the economy to see that growth has such amazing variety in its complexity to be impossible to solve as an equation.

1 Feb 2012

1049

Driving a complex organic growth system like the economy, to grow like a cancer forever, hoping a model of boxes and arrows helps, won't.

1 Feb 2012

1048

@NatureNews Growth remains a growth process, creating the features of complex systems, nothing like a numeric model for boxes and arrows.

1 Feb 2012

1047

lnkd.in/3ABZeA Wolfgang, Thanks for your persistence. I’m trying to point out a common conceptual error, in thinking about how...

31 Jan 2012

1046

If ~$100K of GDP makes CO2 needing 1 acre of forest to recapture, who pays the finance, tax and labor costs of maintaining it forever too?

31 Jan 2012

1045

@TheTakeaway If nothing will be "decided" except by the election, then all we need to talk about is better understanding the real problems.

31 Jan 2012

1044

lnkd.in/GspVjN Not quite sure what you're saying. Resource markets have much more control over the decisions people than the...

30 Jan 2012

1043

lnkd.in/ZubK9G Well if that's what you want to know, then ask me. I've had the answer to that for 30 years, and to my surprise I...

30 Jan 2012

1042

lnkd.in/cXe6Ny OK, you seem to say you've another way to know all the right answers to the unusual questions I'd ask, and so don't...

30 Jan 2012

1041

It turns out the best parts of #capitalism are kept, and the evil parts lost, if businesses stop growing like cancers when the whole can't.

30 Jan 2012

1040

So... IF investors noticed limits to growing the economy were making it unprofitable, would they keep their parts growing like a cancer?

30 Jan 2012

1039

lnkd.in/_87rKr I guess you seem to keep saying just the right principles, but reaching the opposite conclusion I do. You say...

30 Jan 2012

1038

The big thing setting apart #Lively systems from ones following set rules or equations is their way of emerging as new systems with a burst.

30 Jan 2012

1037

@Revkin Search for life here on Earth alive too, spotting systems large or small working by themselves, as bursts of new relationships .